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Is Hillary Clinton a Democrat?

by tom32182, Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 12:37:56 PM EST

From CNN today:

Q: Can you tell us what specific experience in handling a crisis that you can point to that would make you better equipped to handle that White House phone at 3 a.m.?

A: Well, of coures, you know, I've got a lifetime of experience. Senator McCain has a lifetime of experience. Senator Obama's whole campaign is about one speech he made in 2002. You know, I was involved for fifteen years in, you know, foreign policy and security policy. you know, I helped to bring peace to Northern Ireland. I negotiated open borders to let fleeing refugees into safey from Kosovo. I've been standing up against the Chinese Government over women's and standing up for human rights in many different places. I served on the Senate Armed Services Committee, and I was the only Senator, of either party, asked to be on an important task force put together by the Pentagon under this Administration to figure out what to do with our military going forward. I have so much exerience. I have experience traveling to more than 80 countries representing the United States, sitting down with Presidents and Prime Ministers and Kings, having the chance to represent our coutnry in some very dificult situations. I'm offering a lifetime of experience and I think that's a sharp contrast to my opponent's offer.
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Her point is fair, but why the McCain reference? Is she shooting for a McCain VP position?

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Moreover, (2.00 / 3)

she's right.

That's it, baby; let's go win this election!

by Beltway Dem on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 12:45:31 PM EST

Re: Moreover, (2.00 / 4)

Yes...she is.

Bitches Get Things Done!

by americanincanada on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 12:53:23 PM EST
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Re: Moreover, (none / 0)

And you'd be okay if Obama started saying that this election is about honesty and integrity and Hillary's going to look two-faced against John McCain?

by Socraticsilence on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 01:14:13 PM EST
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This points out that she is more electable (2.00 / 3)

I really see Obama being torn up on this issue next to McCain.

There is absolutely no way that he would win on the raw experience question. And that is an important question.

Also, clearly Hillary has got a huge jump on McCain and she is also quite a bit younger.

I think it can arguably be said that she is one of the most capable politicians we have of either gender, and her record is all the more incredible given her gender and the fact that these areas are not ones in which many women have ever had much of a chance.

Given her ability to respond well and stay focused in the face of extreme adversity, I think there is a good chance that we are looking at a really historic campaign and that Hillary, if elected, could end up being one of the best Presidents we have ever had.

Its not a job for smooth talking amateurs.

Universal healthcare IS a core Democratic value
Comprehensively cover 100%, not only the healthiest 80%

by architek on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 12:48:18 PM EST

The primary will decide the experience issue (none / 0)

If experience is more important to voters than getting someone who's shown judgment and hasn't been co-opted by the Beltway, Hillary will win.

If not, Obama will likely win.

And that's a good GE predictor.

I think Hillary's got the tougher road on this one. Her experience as first lady and Senator for 6 years won't equal McCain's experience. And experience is what she based her campaign on. So she'll have to change her theme, argue that she represents change.

I like her and I think she's a good candidate, but I think she will have a far tougher time against McCain.

John McCain: Healthcare for Kids? In America? No way

by bosdcla14 on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 01:03:11 PM EST
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we won't beat McCain on experience (2.00 / 1)

Neither of our candidates will. He's been in Congress too long and has a huge military background. We will win on issues like the economy, where the GOP is weak in general.

by Mayor McCheese on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 01:06:11 PM EST
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Re: The primary will decide the experience issue (none / 0)

If her 6 years experience in senate won't hold up against McCain, how will Obama's 2 years in the senate hold up? (I noticed you deducted her presidential campaign year from her record, so I also deducted it from Obama's).

by AnnC on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 01:30:22 PM EST
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Unlike her, he's not basing his campaign on (none / 0)

experience.

McCain will say "I have experience." Obama will say "your experience just means you've been in Washington an extremely long time, and you still don't make the right choices."

And fair enough on the Senate years---7 and 3. Plus Obama's years as a state legislator. Unless serving states doesn't count, at which point Bill Clinton was very inexperienced when he was elected President.

John McCain: Healthcare for Kids? In America? No way

by bosdcla14 on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 01:57:16 PM EST
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Re: This points out that she is more electable (none / 0)

I think its a decision that might win her the nomination and then seal her defeat in the general-- seriously, she wants experience to be the primary issue against McCain?

by Socraticsilence on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 01:16:03 PM EST
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Re: This points out that she is more electable (none / 0)

Which Barack is trying to tell Democrats now. Hillary is the middle candidate here on experience. Arguable better than Barack but nowhere near McCain. Imagine if Hillary starts up with "8 years in the White house and 7 in the senate" speech and McCain responds with the "5 years as a POW, and by the way I have been in Congress SINCE 1982" . Hillary loses immediately.
She is trying to win at all costs here. Barack is trying to help the party by running on ideas and change, which helps him the primary, BUT CAN HELP THE PARTY IN THE GENERAL.
But Hillary is too stubborn to see that.
Let her beat Obama with an experience-based campaign.
See what happens in the general.

A PROUD Hopium user!

by xodus1914 on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 02:46:57 PM EST
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Re: Is Hillary Clinton a Democrat? (2.00 / 4)

I agree with that. Hillary has the experience we need in these times of trouble. Obama give a great speech but after listening to him I feel like I've just eaten cotton candy. Sweet but not really filling. Obama just can't win the presidency. He should not be our nominee, red state delegates don't really matter all that much this fall. If Obama can't win Ohio, which he can't, he can't be president. Hillary is our real chance with Obama getting the experience he needs as VP. That is the only way he could ever get my vote and more, its the only way he could ever get close to the presidency. Then he might win, but not now. Sorry bots.

democrat voter

by democrat voter on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 12:55:11 PM EST

Re: Is Hillary Clinton a Democrat? (none / 0)

So let me make sure again. If Obama wins, you will vote for McCain then?

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by xodus1914 on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 02:52:15 PM EST
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Re: Is Hillary Clinton a Democrat? (2.00 / 1)

The mistake you keep making is that vote. Doesn't even matter. This is Bush's war, no vote in the senate took us into Iraq. How could you expect a sitting senator from NY in 2002 to vote against the president? At that time? You are just wrong about war BTW. This country wants out of Iraq but with HONOR, not by telling Americans they are wrong. That approach will never will the presidency. Americans don't think like that. Obama's saying he was against this war from the start makes no difference in the end. We are there. What matters is going forward. His blame America strategy is a loser. Plain and simple it a loser!

democrat voter

by democrat voter on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 12:59:36 PM EST

Re: Is Hillary Clinton a Democrat? (none / 0)

If that's what America wants then McCain has already won.

by Socraticsilence on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 01:16:51 PM EST
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Re: Is Hillary Clinton a Democrat? (2.00 / 1)

Hey tom -- did you make the same comments last night when Obama tried lumping Hillary and McCain together on healthcare?

vote blue in 2008

by sepulvedaj3 on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 01:00:45 PM EST

Re: Is Hillary Clinton a Democrat? (none / 0)

I don't think he said Hillary and McCain had the same health care plan. They surely don't. I think he was talking about the way that Hillary and McCain mock his candidacy.

McCain/Clinton 2008.

by tom32182 on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 01:04:35 PM EST
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Re: Is Hillary Clinton a Democrat? (2.00 / 1)

He's been saying this all along. And it has worked to a degree. It's unlikely to help him further than it already has

by Mayor McCheese on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 01:07:42 PM EST

Obama's phonecall to McCain (none / 0)

Maybe you should ask Obama why he had to call to "congratulate" McCain last night.

What was that about????? Maybe it's Obama who wants to be McCain's VP.

by Sieglinde on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 01:16:15 PM EST

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